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  1. Yeah this maps very well to the typical cloud-provider scenario of running RHEL/CentOS on the infrastructure but something trendier in the VM. Often Ubuntu but Gentoo’s a great fit too.

  2. prithvi

    Gentoo is great. I am using in one of my systems. But its nowhere close to Red hat’s offering when it comes to mission critical deployments. Enterprise wants security on top of stablility and definitely not a rolling release. I am yet to see a sysadmin wants to have rolling release for their systems.

  3. prithvi, I’m surprised you say that.

    In my company, admins would love to have rolling releases; even “the business” that we serve would like nothing more. Reinvest projects, where operating systems are upgraded (most of the time new OS and migration of software and data) are heavy time-consuming projects. Every time we need to burden our business with a reinvest, they make it perfectly clear that the lifecycle of their operating systems should be much, much longer.

    It is this disdain from upgrades that is pushing businesses towards SaaS solutions.

    The reason we don’t use rolling upgrades in companies is because ISV certification cannot handle it. Most products are certified on OS versions for operating systems that do not use rolling upgrades… But if you look at how companies work with software maintenance and upgrades, they usually have their own release calendar as well (for instance, X releases per year). So they are already doing rolling maintenance; the step to rolling upgrades is quite small in comparison.

    Luckily, we’re pushing towards more open source / free software solutions, which allow us to be more flexible in releases, and allows us to build our own SaaS that is not that much tied to end-of-lifes.

  4. prithvi

    your answer would have been more fitting in 2011 when red hat didnt have this extended life cycle. Since the red hat announcement, the whole Linux platform for enterprise is only about who delivers the longest support. Even ubuntu has extended its life cycle of LTS releases and shortened their other releases. If you take red hat most of the packages have cherry picked patches tested internally and only released after extensive testing. Gentoo has latest pacakges than Red hat with some packages ported from ~amd64 to stable after a mandatory month’s testing but definitely not tested in the same league as Red hat.

    Sure Gentoo has its place among the enthusiastic desktop users and some ricers but enterprise is something poeple are hardly willing to take risks and want only proven technology and a big vendor backing. This is my opinion around my enviroment. maybe things are different somewhere else.

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